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Things have gotten worse in the war in Georgia. It started with the conflict in the Ossetia region. The Russian encouraged separatists in the region announced their intention to leave the Georgian Republic. Russia has taken the view that the Ossetians are Russian. When the Georgians
moved in to put down the separatists, the Russians attacked. To further escelate things the Russian offensive has encouraged another section of Georgia called Abkhazia to rise up. This may have been do to Russia putting troops in that region "to assist in stabilizing the region".

The Georgian Interior Ministry claimed that Russia had moved 6000 soldiers into South Ossetia by land and another 4000 into Abkhazia by sea, all preparing to attack at dawn. The Georgians have pulled back from the Ossetian city of Tskhinvali and are moving more troops to the northern section of Georgia where to the two fronts are. The Russians have moved a fleet into the Black Sea to support the war. Pretty much everyone agrees more than 2000 people are dead in roughly 3 days of fighting. That number will probably go up drastically when it is safe to go into certain area. The Russians are painting this as a humanitarian mission. Vladimir Putin is accusing the Georgians of genocide though there is no credible evidence of that. There is some evidence though some folks on both sides are doing some pretty brutal things. Georgia is reported to have burned down a church with rebels in it. The Russians have been accused of targeting Georgian civilian centers.

It is pretty clear the Georgians are out matched here. None of their allies are willing to send them troops to help cause they have their own problems and getting involved in a war with Russia is just a bad plan. It may turn into another Chechnya. I can't think Turkey will be happy about this. Having yet another neighboring state in open conflict tends to make a nation nervous, and they have plenty to worry about with Iraq as a neighbor.

All in all this is a tragedy. There will be many many people killed. It will all be muddled and complicated. In the end I don't think anyone will win and no one is really in the right here.

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milikihaha
Aug. 10th, 2008 03:56 pm (UTC)
I need a Victor Von Putin Icon.
technoir
Aug. 11th, 2008 01:10 am (UTC)
funny.
gr8tmazinkaiser
Aug. 10th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
Well, looks like the Russians are bored and feeling expansionistic. It'll probably end up better for all involved if they just use excessive deadly force and end it quickly, but they'll probably mostly use proxies for the days to come.

It would've been better for the Georgians to have not joined armed conflict in the first place. If the Bear's waking up, it's time to get out of the cave.
technoir
Aug. 11th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
AS with most things involving people with guns, it is more complicated than a simple explanation. No one there is completely right.
gr8tmazinkaiser
Aug. 11th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
Nonetheless... fighting the Russians is suicide...

It doesn't matter who's right if they're dead.
pleroma
Aug. 10th, 2008 05:19 pm (UTC)
Don't know if you read this article or not, but it does give a bit more insight into the situation.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1831073,00.html
technoir
Aug. 11th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
I did not read that one specifically but I have read similar.
roninevil
Aug. 10th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
This is really making me nervous.
technoir
Aug. 11th, 2008 01:14 am (UTC)
Well the upside and maybe downside is we will likely not become involved. It is bad situation we will look at and shake our heads and maybe condemn someone, but little else. We cant afford to get involved beyond that.
mkillingworth
Aug. 10th, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC)
Here's a bit of a knowledgeable perspective on the issue. A friend of mine whose family came from Russia pointed me here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/09/georgia.russia1
technoir
Aug. 11th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC)
I have seen so many articles painting both sides as bad guys. The truth is somewhere in the middle I guess. Along with the thousands who will caught between two powers that are probably both not clean.
howlwhite
Aug. 11th, 2008 04:33 am (UTC)
It would be so much easier is the USA was involved. Then we would be the bad guys, regardless of the facts.
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